Who Won Wednesday's Presidential Debate? Romney Did, Say Local Politicos

President Barack Obama and Gov. Mitt Romney squared off in the first presidential debate on Tuesday, Oct. 3 in Denver, Colorado. Here's what Massachusetts Republicans and Democrats said about the debate in a flash poll.

Gov.. Mitt Romney won his first debate with President Barack Obama Oct. 3: that's the major finding from Red and Blue Commonwealth flash polls sent out to Massachusetts Republicans and Democrats immediately after the debate ended on Tuesday night.

Local influential Republicans polled in Patch's survey voted 86.2 percent that Romney won by a wide margin, with the remaining 13.8 percent voting that he won by a slim margin.

Local influential Democrats voted 19.1 percent that Romney won by a wide margin and 28.6 percent voted that he won by a slim margin, while 19.1 percent voted that Obama won by a slim margin and only 9.5 percent voted that the president won by a wide margin. Another 23.8 percent voted "neutral."

Asked who would be the consensus "winner" as declared by the national media, Democrats and Republicans opinions were almost identical, with the majority of each—51.7 percent of Republicans and 52.4 percent of Democrats—voting that Romney would be declared the winner by a slim margin.

Also, 24.1 percent of Republicans and 23.8 percent of Democrats voted Romney would be declared the winner by a wide margin, while 17.2 percent of Republicans and 14.3 percent of Democrats voted Obama would be declared the winner by a slim margin. No one from either side voted for Obama being declared the winner by a wide margin.

What Moment Stood Out? 

Asked for a moment that will stand out in the minds of conservatives in Massachusetts, Republicans cited a variety of topics and lines, but most common were Romney's phrases about "trickle down government" and the governor's repeated line about $90 billion in funding going to green energy, with the accompanying quote, "You don't pick the winners and losers—you just pick the losers."

Republicans also cited Romney's defense of his health care bill in Massachusetts and his stance on the Constitutional role of government.

"Opening answer and start of the debate by Mitt Romney," one Republican surveyed answered. "He started off knocking it out of the park and just went from there."

Democrats were less enthusiastic when asked for a moment that will stand out for liberals and progressive in Massachusetts, with one calling the debate a "rather doldrum affair." Some criticized the president for being too "dispassionate" and "passive."

"At the end of the first round, Romney took control and responded to the president when he should not have been allowed to do so," one Democrat answered. "That loss of momentum for the president never recovered. The president was never aggressive enough to impress the viewers."

Asked for a moment that will stand out in the mind of swing voters in Massachusetts, several Republicans cited Romney repeatedly returning to the theme of partisanship while characterizing as Obamacare as a partisan bill. 

Democrats expressed a variety of answers to the stand out moment for swing voters, with some saying Romney taking control of the debate, with others saying Romney did not provide a level of specificity for his plans.

Romney's Performance Makes it More Likely He'll Win in November

Of the local Republicans polled, 72.4 percent strongly agreed that Romney's debate performance makes it more likely he'll win the election, with another 42.1 percent voting they somewhat agreed.

None of the Democrats strongly agreed that Obama's debate performance would make it more likely he'll win the election, with 28.6 percent voting they somewhat agreed, 38.1 percent voting neutral, 23.8 percent voting somewhat disagree and 9.5 percent voting strongly disagree.

In closing opinions, Republicans expressed enthusiasm over their candidate's performance, with several taking shots at Obama not being able to use a Teleprompter and calling his appearance "uncomfortable" and "annoyed," and calling Romney's appearance and demeanor "relaxed" and "polished."

"Mitt surprised a lot of people tonight," one Republican said. "My Facebook newsfeed lit up the entire night with people on both sides of the aisle shocked at how badly Obama was getting destroyed."

Democrats expressed disappointment in their final opinions, both over moderator Jim Lehrer's control over the candidates' time to answer and Obama's performance, which was called "unfocused" and not aggressive enough, saying it let Romney slip away without being challenged.

"Obama simply didn't seem focused," one Democrat said. "Many times Romney contradicted his campaign promises so far, or his math didn't add up, and Obama didn't challenge him. It was very disappointing."

Gretchen Robinson October 09, 2012 at 08:42 PM
my husband and I are older white people on medicare and the Tea Potty doesn't represent me, not even 1% Of my high school classmates only a few crazies are TP people, most are in TX now and bought the whole mindset
Gretchen Robinson October 09, 2012 at 08:44 PM
never heard of the Log Cabin Republicans? They are gay vote republicans and look how the Repubs scapegoat them Ragman I think your comment is inaccurate and racist
Gretchen Robinson October 09, 2012 at 08:46 PM
Ken B. Tea Party is a bunch of malcontents. You think you alone do things like volunteer, spend time with family, have second jobs, etc. etc. What a smear your entry is!
Gretchen Robinson October 09, 2012 at 08:48 PM
DBC: say something intelligent, if you can.... you're like your namesake, who hijacks and runs with the money and thinks he's a Robin Hood. LOL
Indiana October 09, 2012 at 09:17 PM
Gretchen from your posts I think you are disappointed you are white...I see now how you warm up to Barry...So when Samuel Jackson says "I am voting Obama because he is black" - that is not racists?? You are a fraud
Ken B. October 09, 2012 at 10:02 PM
Gretch, I did not make my statement to the exclusion of others. However, if you take offense, and aspire to be like the OWS'ers as I noted, then knock yourself out. If nothing else, you're a good lib with a response that says absolutely nothing, other than to put words in someone else's mouth. Keep on posting though....this and others like "Gore won Florida by 5,000 votes" continue to keep us amused.
Stoughton12 October 09, 2012 at 10:14 PM
I am late to the abortion debate, but I did want to ask the question about what if we did say NO to abortions. No abortions for rape or incest victims, no abortions for risky pregnancy or risky behavior. You have to have the baby no matter what. So since I could only find the numbers from 2007-12, the US has about 1.2 million legal abortions each year. So now next year, since we have ban abortions, we get an additional 1.2 million babies born to people that quite possibly don't want them. They have two options, raise the little bundle of joy and try not to take it out on them each and every day for making life hard for the mom that did not want them, or put them up for adoption. Let's say that 50% or the moms follow the adoption route, that means 600,000 babies join the ranks of those to be adopted. Now, the fine folks in the US adopted an average of 51,000 kids each year from 2001 to 2011. So that leaves 550,000 kids in the dark, right off the bat. Let's say 80% of the moms see the bundle of joy and they just fall in love and will raise them in a happy home. The problem is all this is that we are releasing 20,000+ kids that did not grow up in a loving home at 17-18 to live in the street to hold their own. When and if they fail, they are more likely to turn to crime. Now go back to the 500,000 kid scenario. That's a lot of unloved kids set loose on the world, even if they do not turn out all "bad". This has happened before, and not just in the US.
Jeff Sitter October 09, 2012 at 10:25 PM
Last election we proved we were not racist. This election lets prove we are not retarded. Excuse me mentally challenged. Can America really take four more years of this kind of abuse? Globally we are a joke and WWIII is right around the corner if we don't smarten up and pay attention to what is going on in the middle east. Our economy has not improved no matter what the stats tell you. Fuel prices have gone unchecked. I am appalled that people can defend the record of a man who promised us such change and has delivered chaos. Students, how are those "affordable" student loans working for you now. Clean energy jobs? Where? and do they actually work? What are we still doing in Afghanistan? Does anyone really have a plan or is Jesse Ventura right and we are only there to steal there Lithium? We are on the cusp of the end of the United States as we know it and people are still defending the direction we are going. Wake Up!!!!!!!!
Gretchen Robinson October 09, 2012 at 10:51 PM
Jeff: that is an absurd statement. Of course, we are racist. Electing a bi-racial president didn't change this nation's deep-seated racism over night! Are you blind or do you just have blinders on? The utter contempt and hatred of Obama is race-based in most of those who oppose him. We have not come as far as some self-congratulatory pundits would have it. The racial hatred of Obama is both virulent and harmful to the haters and to our nation. Indiana: I'm proud of being Human. I'm a human being before I am White or Female. Race and gender are just accidents of fate. Whites who boast about being proud are just boasting about having White privilege. They should just get over themselves. Being White doesn't make you any better than anyone else, any more than being Black means you are on welfare. Step out of your narrow categories and think for yourself, for once. What matters is what you do with the traits you have been given at birth. What are you doing to make the world a better place? Stoughton2. Welcome aboard! Thanks for carrying your thought experiment to its logical conclusion. A parallel question might be to figure out how many of the thousands of frozen zygotes could be implanted in how many women to produce in 9 months would 'produce' how many babies to be adopted out?? The mind boggles. Conception in a petrie dish has created problems few of us want to talk about but we need to do so instead of arguing politics as black and white.
JustSaying October 09, 2012 at 11:14 PM
There you have it folks if you oppose Obama you are a racists...thanks Gretchen for enlightening us all. Or maybe some of have been paying attention and don't like the way the country is going. I'm going to assume you thought Obama won the debate. You are truely blinded by your bias and really offer nothing to the discussion going on in this country. Nothing more than those on the far right which you rant on here about all the time.
Gretchen Robinson October 09, 2012 at 11:33 PM
That's not what I said and you know it.
Ken B. October 10, 2012 at 12:02 AM
Really ? Your words: "The utter contempt and hatred of Obama is race-based in most of those who oppose him."
Gretchen Robinson October 10, 2012 at 12:28 AM
"most" is not all....I call 'em as I see them I don't like the way the country is going. Republicans have obstructed and blocked any progress out of their prime directive: Stop Obama at any cost. Even if that cost is harm to the nation!! We've seen that at several points, most recently Republican gloom at a jobs report of 7.8%. They'd claimed for years that Obama couldn't get the unemployment rate down below 8% and now they were proven wrong. Your side started whining and claiming it was fixed. Crybabies "all" of you.
Gretchen Robinson October 10, 2012 at 12:37 AM
Romney's latest push is to burnish his tarnished (non-existent) image on Foreign Policy. He insulted Great Britain with his arrogant comments about not being prepared for the London Olympics. The Brits publicly jeered Romney at the opening of the Olympics. Then he went to Israel and insulted the Palestinians. This past week he insulted the Spanish. They think the US is bonkers over there, esp. after two terms of Bush II. Romney has no interest in foreign policy. As a presidential candidate he is briefed every day by government policy experts. They report that Romney doesn't even read the policy papers. He's so lackadaisical. Make it up as you go along. No leadership skills appropriate for President. http://consortiumnews.com/2012/10/09/mitt-romney-lies-to-the-world/
Mr. Ragman October 10, 2012 at 02:25 AM
It's called institutional racism, and this kind is the best.
Ken B. October 10, 2012 at 11:21 AM
My sentiments as well.
Janet Sroczynski October 10, 2012 at 12:56 PM
@Gretchen - you need to read more under: Business & Industry Reports. Go to your local library if that helps you. With current unemployment rates for recent college graduates at 53%, they are unemployed and underemployed, and have had to move back in with their parents upon graduation.
Amy October 10, 2012 at 01:21 PM
Gretchen when did stop Obama at any cost begin? After he was elected by a sizeable margin? After a full Democratic house and Senate were elected? Ummm, ya! As soon as everyone was on to his far left socialist ideals and had Obamacare rammed down their throats. That's just for starters. Now, even Hillary is seeing the light and speaking out.
ttgb October 10, 2012 at 01:47 PM
If you read the stats you would see that simply using birth control on a consistent basis would eliminate the need for about 90% of abortions.
Indiana October 10, 2012 at 02:13 PM
"Whites who boast about being proud are just boasting about having White privilege". WOW ! this woman is coo coo cachew! Gretchen you are the one who brought race into the discussion.
D. B. Cooper October 10, 2012 at 05:34 PM
To many deletes here, the moonbats come up with the racial hate speech and good ol AOL deletes the common sense remarks. Kind of like AOL, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, MSNBC, CNN, KOS, Media Matters, Moveon.scum, ect ect.
Gretchen Robinson October 10, 2012 at 07:35 PM
what does that tell you?? that things like calling Elizabeth Warren "Lieawatha" as one letter writer did in the Sun Chronicle yesterday are beyond the pale. Either you are working/writing civilized discourse or your just low, mean-spirited, full of hate, and just venting your fear and despair here. Mr. Ragman, would you please enlighten us on your phrase about "institutional racism" being "the best."
Avon Barksdale October 10, 2012 at 08:18 PM
In the ongoing battle for whose comments are stupidest, how can I choose? This is very difficult.
Gretchen Robinson October 10, 2012 at 08:25 PM
and yet we keep coming back.... hoping to convert? inform others? vent? I suppose the motives are many and sometimes we don't know why we keep coming back....
Gretchen Robinson October 10, 2012 at 08:26 PM
it would seem that Republicans like you have the whole mainstream media against you. Do you think you are victims....is that how you see yourselves? The world is against you and your little tribe here?
Gretchen Robinson October 10, 2012 at 08:27 PM
Amy October 10, 2012 at 08:34 PM
Gretchen, I think we all keep coming back here because we like to exchange ideas even challenge each other. Sometimes it just feels good to state a point of view. Hope you all have a nice evening.
Gretchen Robinson October 10, 2012 at 08:38 PM
thanks, Amy. I hope we can learn to disagree without being disagreeable and without making personal attacks. Myself included.
D. B. Cooper October 10, 2012 at 09:29 PM
Good point dude, personally I think your picture wins hands down. You've working very hard to bring minority unemployment from Barry's 30% and drive it to 80%. Good Work!!!
Avon Barksdale October 11, 2012 at 01:50 AM
You may wish to reassess your comedic skills.


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