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Stoughton Schools Issue Statement About Fatal Collision Near Hansen School

A police trauma team will be at the Hansen School September 19 when school reopens after Rosh Hashanah. School officials and Public Safety officials will carefully review all traffic areas around the Stoughton Schools.

 

Editor’s Note: The following is a statement from the Stoughton School Committee and the Stoughton Public Schools administration in regards to the tragic death of Shayla Lutz, a three-year-old Stoughton girl, who died shortly after she was struck by a box truck in front of the Hansen Elementary School on Central St. in Stoughton Friday, September 14 around 2:45 p.m.

For more on this story click here and here.

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We, the members of the Stoughton School Committee and Stoughton Public Schools administration, are deeply saddened and offer our condolences to the Lutz family for the death of their little girl.  They are in our thoughts and prayers. 

While Shayla was not a student at Hansen Elementary, this tragedy has deeply affected many people in the Hansen School community. School grief counselors will be available when school resumes from the religious holiday break on Wednesday for any students, staff members, and parents who feel the need to use their services. We are grateful for the offer from the Stoughton police chief Paul Shastany who has been of tremendous help and support to us from the very beginning of this terrible event.  He has facilitated the availability of the State Police trauma team who will also be at the Hansen School on Thursday*.  We will come together as a community to help and support all of our students, teachers, and families impacted by this tragedy.

Pick- and drop-off times are always a concern and we take the issue of safety in school and during arrival and departure from school very seriously.  School officials, in conjunction with Public Safety officials, will carefully review all of the areas around the Stoughton Schools to see if there is any more that can be done to ensure safety for all children using our streets and sidewalks.

* According to Superintendent of Schools Dr. Marguerite Rizzi, the trauma team is only a resource to help the staff and students of the Hansen. No outside visitors will be allowed.

Related Topics: Central Street Stoughton, Fatal Pedestrian Accident, Hansen School, Shayla Lutz, Stoughton Police Department, Stoughton Public Schools, Stoughton School Committee, and pedestrian accident

Just Saying

6:51 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012

Make more buses available to more students. Lose the criteria of 2 miles from school and implement a criteria of (a) do the streets have sidewalks; (b) are the streets considered to have moderate to heavy traffic; (c) are there sufficient crosswalks & crossing guards on the walking routes to schools. There probably aren't any students walking 2 miles to school, there probably aren't even very many walking a mile, they are all being dropped-off & picked-up - which just adds to all the traffic around the schools at those times of day. They cut the buses & the crossing guards to save money, but you cannot put a price tag on the safety of the children, find the money and do what is right and necessary to keep the kids safe!

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JO

7:53 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012

You are absolutely right. Driving on Central Street today by the Hansen, I didn't notice any crosswalks except the one crossing over West Street. Other crosswalks are faded and need to be repaired. Drop off and pick up at the Hansen is an absolute nightmare. Rizzi and school committee claim there's no money in the budget for this but I guarantee Rizzi had no problem finding money in the budget for her raise. This was a preventable accident. Shame a 3 year old had to lose her life for people to learn a lesson.

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lowertaxes

11:58 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012

I totally agree with you JO. I drove by the area today and the only crosswalk I could see near the school is where West Street is and it is at a blind curve and I would think would be the lease safe place to cross. It is the job of Dr. Rizzi to keep our children safe in regard to the schools. The safety of this area has been addressed to her in the past and she has done nothing, siting the budget as a reason. NOTHING should come above the safety of our children. The money should have been found. And I agree, the money was there for a raise for Dr. Rizzi, as well as for the teachers, custodians, secretaries, etc so why not for a guard at this spot. There are crossing guards at the intersection of Pearl and Central where there is a traffic light with the ability to stop traffic for pedestrians as well as at Pinecrest. So again, why not in front of the Hansen School!

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Everyonesacritic

3:51 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

@lowertaxes - really? NOTHING should come above the safety of our children? Wouldn't the logical conclusion to this statement in this context be individual tunnels from every household to their local school, and individual bubble-boy bubbles around each child until they are of age? Where would it end - should we ban roads and driving? After all roads and drivers were involved in the accident. Sure - and all funded by our town to the exclusion of all else.Think before you comment! I think a lot of people are using this tragedy to push their own agendas. If the school needs a crosswalk, or traffic calming measures nearby then it needs it and as a town we should get it done and pay what is necessary in our taxes to fund it- they go up by 5% every year regardless don't they? Not use it as an excuse to slash teacher and janitor pay. I'm sure they are not paid well to begin with. Trying to guilt these hard working people out of a raise by using this tragedy is despicable. I also doubt the school committee is in charge of public works spending for roads - that would be the public works department.

Sarah

9:18 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012

I would like to see a map showing the locations of all the crossing guards, crosswalks, and traffic signals, as well as the numbers of families walking to/from the town's schools. Clearly, central street needs an in depth traffic study in terms of safety measures that need to be taken. I don't know if anything could have prevented this heartbreaking tragedy, not having been a witness to it. But the fact is that pedestrian and vehicle accidents are happening with frightening regularity in town and something needs to change. My heart goes out to all those involved in yesterday's tragedy. I only hope measures will be taken to make sure it does not happen again.

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Erin

9:28 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012

Very cruel to implicate Rizzi when public works and police should be managing pedestrian safety. Wow. Not that this was the case here, but I will say that drivers in Stoughton very often drive around cars stopped at crosswalks, puting pedestrians in danger. Unbelievable. Slow down, people!

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Laura

10:41 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012

Call our state senator Brian Joyce. The more people make noise about this the greater likelihood something will change. Clearly the town is not able to handle safety at the Hansen. Time to go over their heads.

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MICHELLE D

10:57 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012

My heart breaks for this family. I can't imagine what they are going through, it's so very, very sad. What I don't understand is that although this little girl was not in a cross walk, the report states that a vehicle stopped to allow them to cross, so why didn't the other driver stop??? If one vehicle stopped they obviously saw people crossing therefore the other driver wasn't paying attention (either distracted, on his cell phone etc.) otherwise he too would have stopped. Surprised no one else is questioning that. Also, I think Shalya's family needs to find themselves a good lawyer and fight this town. The town is at fault for not having a cross guard on a main street, especially where there have been so many very recent articles concerning traffic lights in that area (the state is flipping the bill of $500k to put a light at Knollsbrook, yet many articles suggested a better location would be Island St- which happens to be diagonally across from the Hansen school). That entire area is extremely busy and to not have a cross guard there, what is this town thinking?????? Also where that crosswalk is located is absurd! On the Central/West street line - a very, very dangerous area.

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JO

7:34 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012

Completely agree. The town needs to look at fixing the intersection of Cental and West; and Central and Island.

JO

7:30 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012

Erin did you know that all of the other schools in town have crossing guards and crosswalks and crossing guards? Rizzi is responsible for the overall safety of the students of Stoughton. Did you know that last year she told Hansen parents, me being one of them, that there was no money in the budget for the safety of the Hansen students? She absolutely has to take responsibility for this. Hope this is a wake up call to her and the school committee who continues to renew her contract. This is just another blunder to add to her long list of blunders.

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Julie Blake

7:35 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012

First, I want to extend my deepest condolences and prayers for the Lutz family. This is a heartbreaking tragedy and Shayla will not be forgotten.

As a school community and a town we now owe it to her to make sure nothing like this ever happens again. That is the busiest street in town and is not one, but 2 elementary schools on it. Yet, there is no stop light, no stop sign, no crossing guard of any kind in front of the Hansen. In my opinion, police crossing guards need to be stationed outside the Hansen at drop off, recess and pickup. The children of this town are more important than anything else we would budget for. End of story.

In addition, money needs to be found to better reinforce the perimeter of the Hansen to ensure that at no time any child can wander down near Central St. Currently there is a woefully inadequate metal gate which is all too easy for small children to scoot under. The road is just too dangerous not to better protect the children from getting near it.

I don't know what we need to do to make those things happen, but as I see it, there is nothing to debate. We as parents and as a town need to step up and get it done.

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MICHELLE D

1:11 pm on Sunday, September 16, 2012

Did anyone else notice what I discovered today as I drove through Stougton? I found it very interesting traveling through Stoughton today at least 3 crosswalks FRESHLY painted (repainted) bright yellow. Is the town starting to realize that there is a need to highlight crosswalks or is this their tactic to cover themselves to a potential lawsuit? A little late! There are two children who lost their life in the past couple years not to mention the number of other accidents resulting in injuries which are not publicized.

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Theresa

8:43 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

I agree with you Michelle D. Four yrs ago a 4 yr old little girl died crossing the street with her grandfather at the intersection in front of friendly's. They were painting that crosswalk on Friday. The town has other priorities other than school safety and pedestrian safety. The flashing lights at the schools don't mean anything because they are not enforced by the Stoughton PD. This never should have happened again.
My heart and prayers go out to the Klutz family. You have a huge community on your side and willing to give any help necessary. As for Stoughton drivers, and drivers from surrounding towns when you see someone trying to cross the street in Stoughton please let them cross. Chances are you will only lose 20 seconds of your own life. Imagine what they lose if you don't. There used to be courtesy in this world, now everyone has some where to be. Please slow down and be aware of those walking, running, or riding a bike.

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Nicole W

1:17 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

it really is sad it took 4 years for them to paint that cross walk after little Diya died- I witnessed that accident and it still sticks with me- What does it take for action to happen in this town? Another child to die? And to note that there was another pedestrian hit in that same cross walk three weeks ago! Whether you have children or not, this is appalling...My heart bleeds for the Patel family...the Lutz family...and any other family that has suffered needlessly and lost loved ones....RIP sweet angels...

Theresa

8:45 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

I'm sorry to the family in my comment above. I did mean the Lutz family. My phone is very sensitive. I'm sorry for the mistype

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Laura

12:37 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

To all of you who are wondering what we can do to fix the problem you should call you state senator Brian Joyce. if the State House is bombarded by phone calls they will make a change. There is no point in working with the local government. They have already proved that they are incompetent.

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Doris McCaffrey

7:23 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

To all of you who wrote in about this issue....,bravo but it takes a community to stick together I know this family and they are gona need all the support they can get after the shock of this terrible accident. I don't live in this town but if I did I would not let this slide under the table as to say....,everyone who lives in this town needs to take action whether it is going above the local government and calling your state representative thats a start. Also the parents and teachers need to take responsibility to see that some action needs to be taken and not just painting crosswalk it it not enough...,two children are now gone cause of this neglect not one but two!!! These families are forever going to have to bear these losses who is going to be next???

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DJ

7:33 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Really disgusted with all the finger pointing and accusations I'm reading here. Contrary to several claims above, there are well painted crosswalks at the school. There are also operable flashing lights to slow traffic. Its a fact that often, traffic does not slow down enough or proceed with enough caution and though this is a very dangerous area, reckless and unfocused driving is becoming epidemic and occurring everywhere. Anyone who is familiar with the area knows this is a potentially dangerous road at a schools intersection. Contrary to other claims, there was a crossing guard working at the time of this occurrence. Senator Joyce at el, just appropriated .5 million in funding for a traffic signal not here, but in a low priority Ethel way area, so thank you Senator, but please Laura, it would be incompetent to expect your State Senator to be the go to person on a local issue. Finally, there is NO WAY some of these claims written about Rizzi are even remotely close to fact. I can not believe some of these horrendous, mean, unfounded, inaccurate and inhuman accusations directed to the Superintendent. Horrible accidents like this one are difficult to accept and understand. No doubt we need to find answers and solutions so they are not repeated, but irresponsibly and unfairly blaming various individuals is not the way. Some times accidents are just that. According to the reports to date this is being considered a very tragic accident.

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Cheryl M

8:08 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

There is no crossing guard at the Hansen. That is a fact. There are flashing lights which were in operation at the time of the accident. There is no crosswalk directly in front of the school (although the sign where Shayla's memorial has been placed, shows in bright yellow that it is a pedestrian crossing zone). The only painted crosswalk is at a very dangerous blind curve that has not only speeding traffic on Central Street but intersecting traffic from West Street. And that crosswalk is not within the yellow flashing light zone either.

The Hansen is not the only school that has unsafe passage for students and parents, although as far as I know we are the only elementary school on a main road without a crossing guard stationed at the school..no stead of 3/4 of a mile down the road near Stone
Ends.

This was a tragic accident and finger pointing does not make it any easier to cope with. A child lost her life and a family's world has forever been turned upside down. There are very real safety concerns here at the Hansen and in many other areas of town that must be addressed or accidents like this one will continue to happen.

The town needs to honest in their statements about what they have done to ensure safety outside of the Hansen. Saying there was a crossing guard on duty is not the full truth and saying there was a crosswalk a few yards away is not truthful either.

Cheryl M

8:09 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Perhaps the Superintendent, and anyone else who defends the view that safe passage is possible, should take a stroll down Central Street at the start or end of the school day and attempt to cross without fearing for ones life.

The town of Stoughton has a responsibility to its community to provide safe walkways and roads. If that means adding sidewalks, painting crosswalks, employing extra crossing guards and setting up speed traps for the overwhelming number of speeding or downright awful drivers, then so be it. Find a way to do it or we will continue to fall victim to preventable tragedies.

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DJ

8:51 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Cheryl, please let me correct you. The crosswalk is indeed in front of the school and also well within the flashing light zone. I can only speculate, but it would be my guess that the walk exists were it is because it bridges two sidewalks. Possibly the crosswalk should be moved west 100 feet or another added, but I suspect they are attempting to discourage crossing at that area as it leads directly to a commercial zone with active driveways and parking, which is also, if not more of a hazard. There are no residences to the north side of Central at this area so it makes sense to position the crossing guard further west at a residential area where sidewalks exist on both sides of the road. Either way, I am absolutely positive there was careful consideration, reasoning and review for the decisions to locate crossings and guards at their present positions and it involved the PD and DPW/Highway departments. Improvements have been sought for this area and hopefully the resolve will be hastened. But I also know there are many complications and no solution is foolproof. Drivers MUST be more attentive.

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Cheryl M

9:05 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

No doubt drivers need to be more attentive. On that issue we agree. In front of the school where they were crossing (very close to the flashing light) there is a yellow sign that shows pedestrian crossing but there is no crosswalk to accompany that sign. The Lutz family does indeed live on the north side of Central. So there are residences there as well as on Mill Street. Having only one crossing guard down by Ethyl Way is poor judgement. Families living near the Hansen should not be expected to walk past the school on a road with no sidewalks (Island St./Mill St. Side) in order to cross the street to get to school.

As for the crosswalk at Central/West, would you honestly feel safe crossing there? There are no traffic lights and no crossing guard. Give it a try and see how safe you feel during the morning rush hour or when school is letting out.

I have two kids at the Hansen and two who have already graduated from the Hansen. I am very familiar with the area and there is no way anyone could convince me that the safety precautions there are adequate.

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DJ

9:45 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Please don't take my remarks as defending the status quo. I am simply trying to defend individuals from being scapegoats when this is certainly a Town wide issue coupled with driver responsibility. I have also read Shayla may have simply run out in front of the moving truck so not certain this is more then a tragic accident. I think nearly all agree there needs to be improvements at Island/west/central Streets. This is a priority location for the Town and I'd like to know if the monies slated by Senator Joyce for signal lights at Ethel way can be used at Island instead? Possibly the delay was due not only to funding, but to development restraints and scheduling related to the project for the property directly across from the Hansen School as many of these options were discussed within prior mitigation offerings.

MICHELLE D

9:06 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

wow DJ but you are absolutely wrong! The only crosswalk in and around the Hansen School is the ONE crosswalk situated at the very dangerous West St./Central St. curve. You ought to drive by that area again before making inaccurate claims. Furthermore, it's not the DPW or Highway Dept who employees crossing guards, it falls within the school systems budget. You need to get your facts straight.

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DJ

9:20 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Michelle, the crosswalk I refer to is precisely the one located at Central and West St which is located at the north east corner of the Hansen School property so I'm not sure what you are trying to say? Additionally, I stated the SPD and the DPW both have/had a say in the review and oversight of road design and safety issues including location and proximity's of the street markings, crosswalks. I will not reiterate why the crossing guards are located in residential and not commercial areas so please reread my post to clarify and recognize I never claimed they were the purview of the dpw.

DJ

9:26 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Route 27 may also be under the auspices of the State, but the Town engineer, SPD, DPW and SSC all weigh in on safety and use issues.

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Cheryl M

9:37 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

I'm confused. DJ, you say a crossing guard is placed in residential areas and not commercial zones but what happens when there are residences within that commercial zone around a school? Are those families left to fend for themselves when crossing the road? Is the town unaware that there are private residences on Island and Mill Street? Do they know that there is no sidewalk available for any of those residents? Do they expect them to walk 3/4 of a mile on the side of the road that has no sidewalks just so they can get to the crossing guard in the residential area? Maybe they did not do a thorough job when planning the safety measures around the Hansen. They need to take a closer look and make immediate changes. While they do an indepth study, they should place a crossing guard at Central & West because the Lutz family and others will still need to cross the road to bring their Kids to school.

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MICHELLE D

9:41 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

DJ, your 7:33pm post on 9/17 stated and I quote " Contrary to other claims, there was a crossing guard working at the time of this occurrence".

And your 8:51 post on 9/17 stated and I quote: " I am absolutely positive there was careful consideration, reasoning and review for the decisions to locate crossings and guards at their present positions and it involved the PD and DPW/Highway departments"

The above quotes were actually copied and pasted from your very own posts. You need to get your facts straight.

There's NO cross gurad at the Hansen anytime of day. Also, it's the school department who employees the crossing guard, again the DPW and Highway Dept. are not involved in employing school personnel.

You need to reread your own posts.

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DJ

11:03 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Michelle, Sorry if I've confused you, but my quotes remain accurate. There was indeed a crossing guard working at the time of the accident. The guard is situated west of the school as Cheryl M has already acknowledged. And as I wrote, I "suspect" the reason for the crossing guard located so far west of the school is to accommodate the residential neighborhood as the vast majority of property across from the school is commercial/industrial with only a handful of homes sporadically situated within. Should a crossing guard also be working the crosswalk at West and Central? I don't know, but clearly the crosswalk at West and Central Streets attempts to cater to those few homes located in the predominately commercial industrial zone. Is the town responsible for accommodating every individual in town and to what extent? There is a well marked crosswalk at this location and it is within the safety lights so I can't imagine why some here cried fowl and negligence on the part of the superintendent. I also read the accident did not occur within the crosswalk and that the child ran out in front of the truck. Two facts that would make most criticisms above, moot.

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Cheryl M

11:59 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

If there were a crossing guard at the crosswalk at Central/West then that is where they would have crossed and the cars would have been stopped for them to cross safely. Whether she darted ahead or not would be moot because with the cars stopped, she would not have been hit. And I hope the town doesn't pick and choose who they are responsible for accommodating. Safety in a school zone should be a right for every resident. The town needs to make it a priority. Are our children not worth the measly $30/day it would cost to place a guard on duty? 7-8:30 & 2:15-3:15 would accommodate not only Hansen students but OMS & SHS students who are unlucky enough to live in the neighborhoods directly off of Central... It seems like a no-brainier to me.

And let me clarify that while I did say there is a crossing guard on Central for Hansen students, they are stationed about 1/2-3/4 of a mile away from the Hansen and for Island/Mill St. residents to use the service, they'd have to walk w/o a sidewalk on Central St. In order to cross the road safely.

Maybe someone from the town can help me & other parents understand their reasoning for not having a guard at the central/west crosswalk. We are all ears.

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Katie

9:15 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

I live in FL but lived in Boston for 30 years I read The Stoughton Patch to keep me up dated. Down here when school let's out the 20 mile blinking light is around one before and after the school, and believe me theirs a police car everyday waiting for you to go over 20 to hand out a $350.00 tix. Maybe Mass should think about that.

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Concerned parent

10:30 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

DJ and Michelle. The two of you going back and forth like children is not doing anything to help this situation. DJ you are obviously related to Rizzi or a member of town who does not want to admit that Stoughton's negligence is a huge part of the blame here. If it is true that every other elementary school has a crossing guard then that is the root of this tragedy - explain to me why a school on Route 27 in a known heavily congested traffic area would not have a crossing guard? I hope the Lutz family sues the crap out of that town and hope the people that were responsible for making the decisions not to have a guard lose their jobs and their sanity.

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DJ

12:21 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Dear concerned parent. I am no relation to Rizzi nor do I work in Town. I continue posting because posts such as yours need correction; Please understand that there IS a crossing guard at the Hansen School!!!! As I've written, the guard is NOT located at the crosswalk located in front of the school at the intersection of West and Central because that crosswalk is primarily unused as it leads to commercial/industrial property. The guard IS located at a crosswalk further west on Central St. I can only surmise the decision to place the crossing guard at this location was likely due to it being the safer crossing location/direct sidewalk to sidewalk/and within a residential neighborhood with the majority of use and need.
I am NOT claiming nothing more can be done. I am simply pointing out that many accusations here are unfair and unfounded.

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Heather

1:50 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

DJ, you state that there is a crossing guard at the Hansen school. I believe that most parents wouldn't consider Stone Ends being at the Hansen School. It is in fact quite far down the street from the school. There should be a guard actually AT the school as there are many children that live in the Mill Street area and behind that in Copperwood that go to the Hansen School and are not given an opportunity to cross safely. For a child that lives in that area they would need to go all the way down to Stone Ends then walk all the way back up Central Street where there is no sidewalk to get home. Do you think that is safe? And what about the kids that live on Island Street? Should they too have to go all the way up to Stone Ends and then walk back down?

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DJ

2:29 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Hi Heather,
A crossing at Mill St would seem to be a reasonable compromise to accommodate children on both ends of Central if there was a sidewalk on the north side of Central , but at present there is only a sidewalk on the south side of Central which I believe is why the crossing guard is located so far west of the School. You and others can and should work with the DPW, PD and Schools and/or submit a warrant article to petition for sidewalks for the north side of the street. That is how it is done by many neighborhoods who find themselves with a safety concern.

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Vicki

4:00 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

@DJ and what about the kids that live on West St and need to cross West St to get to the Hansen School? How about the kids that live on the other side of the Hansen and walk to and from the OMS or SHS? They need to cross West St and there is no crossing guard for them either. There are several kids I see walking to and from those schools. In the fall and spring my daughter who is 16 does decide to walk home from SHS afterschool and has to cross that street. All crosswalks need a crossing guard for the students, for whatever reason, walk to and from school. When the buses were elimated from teh OMS and SHS unless you pay for them, crossing guards should have been hired for every crosswalk. I see kids struggling to cross Canton St to get to Simpson St every day before and after school. I would love to see the School Committee have a public meeting and announced weeks in advance for all parents to attend. It should be weeks in advance so parents can set up babysitting in advance.

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Grammysue7

9:45 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

I am jumping in now as a concerned grandparent and person who lives close to the are where the crashing guard is stationed west of the school, but have grandchildren who live east of the school near Island St. Inhave studed the traffic pattern for the past 2 weeks and there is no safe way to come from Iskand Street and crosses to the Hansen school. The marked crosswalk up several yards from Island Street does not have a sidewalk leading to it and is on a blind corner. I would never cross the street in that crosswalk asit would be very unsafe to do so. I would if a guard was there to actually stop traffic for me. The Lutz family loss could have been prevented by better diligence on the part of the town. Island St has residential family homes and potential walkers. As I drive by Shayla's memorial I have tears in my eyes as I see no crossing guard or police support during the school peak hours if traffic. Stoughton should take temporary action to provide that support until a traffic study can be done and a plan out in place. Shame on them if another child or person is hurt.

Vicki

12:05 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

As a parent and former student of the Hansen, there is no crossing guard ANYWHERE in sight of the Hansen school. The closest crossing guard is at Stones End. As that is a bus stop, I am unsure as to why there is a crossing guard there. If anyone does not believe or refuses to accept this fact, I suggest you take a ride between 8-830am and 230-300pm to the Hansen and count the crossing guards. You will find NONE in sight of the Hansen school. In fact, the town even removed the crossing guard at Central and Pearl where the Junior and High school kids cross that street. Granted they have a light but most kids do not know to walk on a combination of red and yellow lights.

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Cheryl M

12:35 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

DJ...AT the Hansen School? You would consider a crossing guard stationed 1/2 mile down the road from the school "AT the school"? You can't even SEE the crossing guard at Stone Ends from the Central Street entrance of the Hansen. You are stretching the truth by saying the crossing guard is AT the Hansen. Absurd! There should be one within the flashing yellow lights of the school zone where the crosswalks of Central & West meet or within another area of the flashing lights school zone. End of story!

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DJ

12:54 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Even if no one crosses there? Even if that crosswalk is a more dangerous crossing located at the intersection of an industrial commercial zone with commerce that has driveways and parking lots that would also be crossed by students trying to get home? That too would be an accident waiting to happen and then what? I don't mean to sound condescending, but you need to see all the facts and details because it is clearly not as simple as you seem to think.

DJ

12:39 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Vicki, I drive that route daily and I've noted why I believe the schools crossing guard is located near Stone's End. Children cross there. I don't understand why there would not be a guard at West St, but frankly, I never, ever witness any children crossing at that juncture and likely that is the reason no guard is there. The question seems to be this: Do you place a guard at a location that may be used by only a handful of people at best or do you find a more cost effective means to provide adequate safety measures for the masses? Why is individual responsibility not at issue? If there was no crosswalk or warning light in this location I would understand the criticism and no one, me included, is ignoring the need to improve that road from the intersection of Canton and Central Streets all the way west past the school. I think we'd get a lot more accomplished if we took the time and made the effort to review all the details in a civil manner. Perhaps a public forum is in order and could be hosted by the school committee and attended by the relevant department heads and safety personal in a location that could accommodate the interested public?

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Cheryl M

12:55 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

The problem is that the town did neither. They did not provide a cost effective SAFE crossing for the masses because families living near Island and Mill Street with children who go to the Hansen would be expected to walk 1/2 mile on rt 27/Central st. Without any sidewalks...which in my view is NOT SAFE. The town may argue that the west/central st. Crosswalk was sufficient for these families but with no traffic lights and no stop signs on the Central Street side of that intersection, that route is equally unsafe without a crossing guard in place. Whether it is one child or ten children who need to cross there, they deserve a walking route that does not put them in harm's way. Right now, the Town of Stoughton does not offer that.

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Vicki

1:41 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

There is a bus stop at the top of Pinewood/Central for both the high school and Southeastern Regional. While I opt to drive my 2 girls to OMS and SHS, there are kids that cross from Mill to that bus stop. There is no crossing guard, no crosswalk and is out of the school zone. Stoughton schools decide on the bus stops for the area. I have seen kids crossing the street to get to that bus stop. Again it is not in sight of the crossing guard at Stones End. I used to cross that same road when my bus stop in the 80's with no cross guard or crosswalk. The speed limit is 35 and there is more traffic now than when I used to do it. The Stoughton Schools do not take anything into consideration when doing things. The safety of all of our school children should be top priority from day one and not now after this tragic accident has occured. School bus should be free for ALL elementary school students regardless of how far they live from the school. Then the parents should have to sign a waiver stating that they will pick up the child(ren) on school property and not in the street if they do not want the bus for them. When the schools decided that buses were an expense they didn't want, then they should have come up with a safety plan for every intersection near a school. Shayla's parents live on Island Street and there is no SAFE place to cross from Island to the Hansen without a crossing guard.

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Just Saying

2:55 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

@DJ - You seem to be of the opinion that one crossing guard in the vacinity of an elementary school, which is located on a main street with very high traffic, is sufficient. That is ridiculous! There needs to be at least 3-4 more crossing guards and/or put the kids on buses!

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DJ

8:10 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

I have made no such assertion and have advocated more improvements are needed. You should consider improving your reading comprehensions skills....just saying...

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Just Saying

9:54 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

@ DJ - I must have hit a nerve, now you're going to make snide remarks about reading comprehension skills. That would be funny, but for the tragic loss of a 3 year olds life! Also, many of your comments are justifications for the placement of the only crossing guard at Stone Ends, rather than at the Hansen. Children living within 2 miles of the school are expected to be "walkers". Which means all of the roads that any of these children would utilize to go to/from school need to be SAFE!!! Children living in a less populous area should not have their safety compromised, their families are paying the same property tax rate as everyone else.

mom2qts

4:53 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

If this issue was ever put to me for a vote I would vote that the school needs more crossing guards. Now with that said....
Please explain to me exactly what the crossing guard would have done to prevent this accident. From what I have read, the little girl ran away from her mother into the street. Only if the crossing guard was already in the street stopping traffic could this have been avoided. So I fail to see peoples logic in a crossing guard being a cure all.
My prayers are with the families.

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Cheryl M

6:40 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Mom and Shayla were waiting across from the Hansen to cross. As I understand it, a car in the lane of traffic closest to them stopped to let them cross. As they started to walk, Shayla broke away. The other lane had not stopped and the truck did not see her as she ran into the path of oncoming traffic. Had a crossing guard been directing them across the street, both lanes of traffic would have been stopped before they started to cross. A crossing guard is not a cure all. Accidents can still happen but with less likelihood. The town needs to make sure they are doing everything they can to create safe passage for students and their families in school zones. I feel Stoughton has failed to do that in regards to the Hansen.

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mom2qts

8:50 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

I see what you are saying and put that way it does make sense. I was thinking that they were still walking along to school, not already stopped waiting to cross. If the crossing gaurd was in the street I can see how it could have helped.

I have seen way too many times at the West school, the number of people who do not cross at the crossing guard and also the number of cars that speed up when the see the crossing guard step out into the street. It is scary the people who have no regard (drivers) for peoples safety. I am also in no way implying that the driver was at fault.

Wendy Peters

1:23 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

DJ is being truthful when she says that she is not related to Rizzi and does not work in town. DJ is a member of the school committee.

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DJ should be ashamed he did nothing about that area

2:33 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Oh, well that makes a sense - a school committee member trying to defend this situation where it is obvious that the town and the school committee have a responsibility to protect our children and have let us down in the worst way possible. DJ must feel incredibly guilty as he should be because if passes that route everyday as he stated he should have noticed that the area was unsafe and needed attention - don't you think that would have been doing his job as a member of the school committee. And now that a three year old is dead he is trying to make himself feel better that he he didn't anything about it - shame on you DJ.
This is not the type of person I want on the school committee so if people know who he is make sure he does not get re-elected.

Lastly, I was at the funeral today and I did not see any members of the school committee present. Sorry if I am wrong about this but I am pretty sure.
Now the Stoughton PD should be commended on how great they have been to the family - especially Det. Hardy and and Officer Desouza - those two have given the family needed support and comfort - unlike town officials such as DJ.

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DJ should be ashamed he did nothing about that area

4:24 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

@mom2qts.......your statement makes no sense. They are called crossing guards because they assist (guard) people crossing the street....when the child ran away they were waiting to cross the street so a crossing guard would have had all traffic stopped - both ways. And maybe the crossing guard in a a bright yellow neon vest would have been more noticeable to the truck driver....drivers don't always stop for other stopped cars as they should but they do stop for crossing guards....which would have probably avoided this tragedy.

And you are the first one to mention cure all?.....there is no cure all to anything in this world but there should have been a much better effort and pro-active plan to avoid this happening in front of an elementary school

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mom2qts

3:40 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012

I'm sorry it didn't make sense to you. I'm glad there are others who did understand what I asked. As for me being the first one to mention cure all, do I win a prize? Again I'm sorry if I offended you by my use of the phrase "cure all." It came across to me as people were saying that this child could only have survived if there was a crossing guard. As has been explained, I did not know or may have missed, that they were waiting to cross. I had thought they were walking to the cross walk.

DJ should be ashamed he did nothing about that area

5:59 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

A trust fund for the Lutz family has been established at the Stoughton Co-Operative Bank. Donations may be made to The Lutz Family Trust at either of the Stoughton Co-Operative Bank's branches on Park St or mailed to the Lutz Family Trust, c/o Stoughton Co-operative Bank, PO Box 446, Stoughton, MA 02072.

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DJ

8:31 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Wendy and Cheryl or who ever you are. Did you not learn that assuming makes an A.S.S. out of U and M.E.? Should I also assume Wendy, that you are the wife of a police officer simply because you commend two good cops when others chastise the force for its inaction in regulating speeding traffic and motor vehicle hazards? Neither of you have a clue who I am, yet claim I'm a SSC member then claim no SCC members attended the service. Do you even care how many fallacies you present in your posts? If you want to know who I am and confirm I am not a member of the group of VOLUNTEERS who spend hundreds of hours serving on our SSC, to help make our schools and community a better place, then please consider yourself invited to the Stoughton Co-operative Bank tomorrow morning. I'll be there just about 9:45 submitting a check to the Lutz Family Trust. Please also feel free to introduce yourselves.

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Cheryl M

8:43 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

I'm sorry, DJ, are you referring to me? I never said anything about who I thought you might be. I'll be at work tomorrow from 7-2 but I'd love to meet up. I want to see changes made and you seem to have ideas on how to start the process.

formertownie

9:05 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

@DJ, @Cheryl M, do you both feel better about yourselves now. Reading your posts from the past few days you both really come off as pompous un-informed citizens. At times I miss my home town but when I read comments like yours I do not. A family is burying their 3 year old daugher and you are arguing town politics. Pathetic. Disgusting.

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Cheryl M

9:16 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

I was arguing child safety. This tragedy may have been preventable and I think it is important that steps are taken to lessen the chance of it ever happening again. I am a mom of Hansen students and it easily could have been one of my kids. I'm not sure how advocating for child safety comes off as pompous; I do admit I'm uninformed about town politics. I've only posted about what I felt could be done to lessen the likelihood of this type of tragedy recurring.

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formertownie

9:20 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

as @concerned parent stated yesterday, the two of you going back and forth like children does nothing for the situation. The fact of the matter is a child was killed and it really had nothing to do with whethere there was a crosswalk, or a crossing guard. It was a tragic accident. would love to be a fly on the wall should you and @DJ ever meet. agreed with earlier posts that @DJ likely knows a town or school offical though.

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formertownie

9:24 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

after a few posts it didnt really seem like you were arguing child safety anymore...it seemed like you were really letting @DJ get to you. I dont think pompous was the word I was actually looking for....it just seems as though we're forgetting why we're all angry here...focus people

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Cheryl M

9:48 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

I did let DJ get at me. I know Shayla's mom and Shayla's brother; my son was in his kindergarten class last year. I had met Shayla, watched her play, laugh and enjoy life. I have not stopped thinking about her passing since I found out last Friday night. I've cried, I 've had nightmares and I've made sure to hold my kids a little tighter, hug them a little longer because you just never know what the next minute will bring. I want to see changes made so we never have to re-live this with the loss of another child.

Cheryl M

9:27 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

"concerned parent" was not referring to my comments with DJ. And while you are entitled to your opinion, so am I. A crossing guard may have saved Shayla's life. I am not the only person who has stated that.

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DJ

9:29 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

The last thing my posts were are political. Each of my posts have been written to denounce unfair accusations or respond to a direct question. Blaming innocent people for an accident in my mind, is inexcusable. This is a newspaper and I think it is clear that everyone one posting has only the best intentions for the families involved though I completely agree that the bickering is unhelpful and unnecessary.
For that I apologize.

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formertownie

9:47 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

While you are correct, @Cheryl M in pointing out my error that @concerned parents comment was not aimed directly at your comments with @DJ......my initial point remains the same. The last two sentences of @DJ's last post pretty much sum up the point I was trying to make. So with that, my first (and likely) last venture into "blogging" (or whatever this is) ends. Completely ashamed at myself that I spent part of my evening let all these posts get me riled up.

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HELP THE FAMILY OF SHAYLA LUTZ

9:28 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

********EVERYONE THAT CAN SHOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THIS ASAP******
A trust fund for the Lutz family has been established at the Stoughton Co-Operative Bank. Donations may be made to The Lutz Family Trust at either of the Stoughton Co-Operative Bank's branches on Park St or mailed to the Lutz Family Trust, c/o Stoughton Co-operative Bank, PO Box 446, Stoughton, MA 02072.

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