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LETTER: Stoughton Parent Clarifies Complaint About School Bus Overcrowding

A letter from Stoughton parent Scott Mellyn.

 

Editor's Note: The following letter is from Scott Mellyn, a Stoughton father and firefighter, who appeared on FOX 25-TV with his two daughters on Sept. 21 discussing their views that the Stoughton Public School buses were overcrowded and it posed a safety risk to the student passengers.

Students were said to be sitting in the aisles because there were not enough room to sit three to a seat.

Superintendent of Schools Dr. Marguerite Rizzi said the complaint was “unsubstantiated.”

“In terms of overcrowding, the legal capacity is 77 students [allowing for 3 students to a seat],” she told Stoughton Patch. “However, the standard that [Director Support Services Joel] Harding has established is no more than 67 students on a secondary bus and no more than 70 at the elementary level.”

“Currently, we have 16 families on the waiting list for transportation,” Dr. Rizzi added.  “The allegation of overcrowding is without merit…We are not legally overcrowded or even at legal capacity.”

Mellyn clarifies his position here:

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This was not an act of sensationalism by a crackpot parent with a political agenda and spoiled kids. I was informed by my kids, who attend the middle & high school, that they were sitting in the aisles of the bus.

I asked if it was inconsiderate kids with bags on seats or was it truly over crowded. They stated it was easier to sit on their bags than try to pack onto a seat. I trust my kids judgment, they are Honor Roll students.

I informed the schools, more than once. The answer was it was being worked on. My anger at this point, I gladly admit, was based on my being a consumer. I paid $720 for a service that I felt I was not being provided. $360 per seat, I wanted a seat, not the edge of one.

I wanted to arm myself with real facts regarding seating capacity, so I researched. The maximum capacity number is arrived at in different ways. A 77-passenger bus means that yes, it can fit 77, but that number is arrived at by a manufacturers standard.

The school bus manufacturers use this formula "three smaller elementary school age persons or two adult high school age persons into a typical 39 inch school bus seat."

The bus I pay for is not going to any elementary schools.

I'll quote the NHTSA "The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration recommends that all passengers be seated entirely within the confines of the school bus seats while the bus is in motion. Federal motor vehicle safety standard No. 222, "School Bus Passenger Seating and Crash Protection requires that the interior of large buses provide occupant protection so that children are protected without the need to buckle-up. Occupant crash protection is provided by a protective envelope consisting of strong, closely-spaced seats that have energy-absorbing seat backs. Persons not sitting or sitting partially outside of the school bus seats will not be afforded the occupant protection provided by the school bus seats"

I believed that validated my safety concerns. Is the NHTSA vague? I thought it was clear-cut.

I asked to talk to the superintendent to bump the problem to the top. I was told that 3 to a seat is legal and that's the conditions they will have to deal with. I believed that conflicted with the facts that I had read and provided here.

I admit, I didn’t really have a plan after that. I was considering writing to local media with my side of the story. Fox 25 contacted me, from a referral from a friend who knows one of the newscasters. I did not initiate the contact. I didn't want it to be a sensation, I wanted it to be fixed.

My anger over the fact that I was told that this is how its going to be may have prompted me to consent to being interviewed. I told them they can’t use my occupation as part of the story, it wasn’t pertinent. They contacted me just before it aired and asked again, so I agreed.

It was never my initial intent to have myself or my kids on the news. I wish it hadn't come to this, I still just want it to be dealt with. Thanks.

- Scott Mellyn

About this column: This is a forum for Stoughton Patch readers. If you have a letter you would like to submit to the editor, please email Jeffrey Pickette at jeffrey.pickette@patch.com. Include "letter to the editor" in the subject line.

michelle

7:34 am on Saturday, September 24, 2011

You brought up some wonderful arguments. Although the school was within the legal limits, common sense tells us that secondary school children are larger and carry more to school. My daughter has 2 large bags and a small pack she carries everyday to school. We only took the bus for two years. I stopped paying for it because my daughter was on a second run bus and would not get picked up until 7:20. This made her late for school everyday. Mr. Harding would not give us our money back for the rest of the year and I in turn had to drive my daughter to school to avoid being late. Yes, this left a bitter taste. Yes, I believe you were justified in taking action when you felt you were being ingnored. Unfortunately, buses are a business and I don't think you will get the outcome you hope for. Good Luck.

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DJ

1:11 am on Wednesday, September 28, 2011

Scott, I have no doubt you genuinely seek resolve of what you perceive to be a safety issue. Given we were less then 3 weeks into the school year leaves me thinking the school really wasn't given a reasonable time line to investigate, review and report. As a taxpayer, I also contribute to the education system and other town services. Is it accurate to state that bussing is not required, but provided as a service for those within a particular radius of the school? I ask because I can't fathom why, when and how it became the schools job to provide transport for all students? Certainly, you want your child to be transported safely, and possibly you have a valid concern, but since it is unclear and disputed, I believe it should have continued to be addressed locally.
I realize it is unrelated, but I find it ironic that so many parents drive while talking on the phone and texting, endangering their kids and yours. It is a very common offense and major safety issue yet because it is a convenience shared by the majority, nothing is done to stop it.
If you think about it, it's probably a lot safer, fiscally prudent and certainly a lot healthier for your kids to walk to school.

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Sarah

10:15 pm on Wednesday, September 28, 2011

DJ, state law requires free transportation for students who live further than 2 miles from school. For students who live within a 2 mile radius, each town makes their own rules. Stoughton provides bussing within the 2 mile radius for those who wish to pay for it. (I believe this year it costs $360 per student.)

As for the rest of your comment. What would you consider a reasonable time frame to investigate a safety issue? Just curious. In the case of such an important safety issue, my own time-frame would be quite short. Yes, it takes time to look up rules, ask questions, count kids, etc... but when safety is involved, that investigation should be a top priority and should happen as quickly as possible.

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DJ

2:52 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011

Thank you Sarah and Bruce. To answer your question Sarah, I would have to know the dates the School was contacted, but I can comment given some assumptions as we know the date school commenced and the date the issue was reported on the news to be about 3 weeks. I would guess the student didn't report the issue to her dad the first day and likely not the first week but even then, he then contacted the school and at some point was put through to Joel Harding who likely had to return his call. He was provided the schools position and apparently did his own investigation, researching with the NHTSA before reporting back his findings to the schools, which are inconsistent due to the counts for varies ages. Given that there are several layers of authority and hundreds of other issues that can be considered "safety" related, I do not think the school was given very much time to deal with what is apparently different perspectives and positions. All of this really occurred in less then two weeks and considering all involved, that is a lot of communication in a short time, in my mind and there is still no reports that indicate the schools are acting negligently.

Bruce Promisel

9:31 am on Thursday, September 29, 2011

The 2 mile radius is only for certain grades, does not apply to High School and I do not think it applies to middle school either and not sure of elementary. If it does then the town owes me some money

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Sarah

11:15 am on Thursday, September 29, 2011

aha- yes, Bruce you are correct. I just looked up the law. The 2 mile radius applies to students in grades K-6 only. Bussing of kids in grades 7-12 is up to the town entirely and they can charge for all students in those grades if that is the decision of the school committee.

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mom2qts

5:47 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011

Did the dad ever go and look for himself? I have to say (And this is only my opinion) the picture is not clear at all. To me it just looks like the 2 people are speaking to each other. That doesn't make me think "OMG The bus is over crowded" So did the dad check it out for himself before going to the news? Not that it's worth much but I have NEVER know Fox to retract a story and they did retract this story, which speaks volumes to me

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