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CVS Employees Required to Report Weight, Body Fat for Insurance

Employees at the drugstores who don't report will face increased rates.

 

What would you do if you went in to work one day and your employer told you that you needed to report your weight, body fat and glucose levels or your insurance costs would jump by $600 a year?

CVS employees are dealing with that very issue right now, according to the Boston Herald.

"This is an incredibly coercive and invasive thing to ask employees to do,” Patient Privacy Rights founder Dr. Deborah Peel told the Herald, adding that mounting health care costs have made these policies increasingly common.

According to the Herald's report, CVS Caremark employs 200,000 workers and all of them are being required to report their metrics by May 1.

The company has dubbed the request “a health screening and wellness review so that colleagues know their key health metrics in order to take action to improve their numbers, if necessary.”

Related Topics: Health Care and cvs pharmacy

BH

11:27 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

What's next? Monitors in the lunch room scrutinizing meals, crossing guards in every parking lot, shoe sole inspection during slippery conditions, volcano insurance? (we're due)

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Emcee of Seekonk

12:49 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

Is this a set up for Obamacare? Or just gross discrimination against certain groups in our population? Why not just say pre-existing conditions will not be tolerated or if subscribers are not thrown off the roles, severely penalized?

CVS's stand on this, to me is disgusting... and I shop there regularly. CVS has become a bully. They bully Rhode Island into giving them tax breaks by threatening to pull out of RI leaving taking many jobs with them. How callous. RI has the highest unemployment rate in the nation.

Discrimination of any kind for any reasons should not be tolerated.

CVS, you have gone too far in favor of the 'bottom line.'

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Dan Roca

8:11 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013

> Why not just say pre-existing conditions will not be tolerated or if subscribers are not thrown off the roles, severely penalized?

Because under Obamacare, you cannot do that. With Obamacare, you cannot deny coverage or raise rates for someone with a pre-existing condition. (But you probably can lower rates for healthier people - which is really just the same as raising rates for unhealthy people)

I'm not defending CVS, though. This is dumb.

Carol Bragg

1:12 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

Maybe the employees are consuming too much of the candy, sodas, and processed foods CVS stocks on its shelves. A better approach might be for CVS to give employees gift certificates to natural foods stores, farmer's markets, and gyms. Oh, and they could stop selling cigarettes.

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Emcee of Seekonk

1:37 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

Exactly right. They have an aisle and more dedicated to candy. Junk chocolate and junk jelly beans. Every holiday is an excuse as they go from Christmas Santas to Valentine hearts to Easter bunnies and on and on. The profit margin must be good even if the sugar jolt has to be bad. Then they have to nerve to chastise those whose BMI is a bit elevated.

A pox on CVS !!

Denise

1:43 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

Most companies today are doing this. My company has had a Wellness program for 3 years. If you don't want to participate, just pay the premium.

How is it different from auto insurance? If you get too many tickets or too many accidents, your premiums go up.

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HJ

1:56 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

Let's face it, obesity is a bad thing and only increases health care costs. The fat person's cost increases the insurer's costs and that is passed onto the company the subsequent year when they review the policy for renewal. And then ALL employees have to pay for the obesity when rates go up.

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Christine

3:44 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

IF they are going to request this weight information then they better get all sorts of other information as well. Let's see--who does not use a condom to prevent STD/HIV...who drinks, smokes, yells at his wife and kids? Let's just snoop in to every aspect of someon'e personal life!
Don't try to tell me that other issues do not affect you--because you are paying for substance abuse treatment, mental health sessions...Here's one--folks who jog many times have a high incidence of joint issues...let's just raise their rates too????
It never ends. CVS is just finding another way to raise employee share of premiums so they pay less. What a crap outfit they are--I go to our local pharmacy...prescription costs are the same, I get better service ==with a smile too.

jayh

2:02 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

They do it at my work. If you don't like it pay a higher premium or find a new job.

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Christine

3:48 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

So, that makes it the right thing to do?

Todd Ouellet

2:13 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

HJ. If you were concerned about costs you would also agree that illegal’s that frequent emergency rooms for common ailments should be banned unless they hand over payment in advance. If you agree with this, then I agree with you! And If they are going to screen for body mass then they need to screen for liver issues for the closet drinkers, do full cardio workups on everyone, screen and test for smokers, full x-ray and MRI on everyone. Oh yeah, let us not forget screening for potential anorexia victims. If the body fat is too low then screen for dental issues and tracheal signs of chronic vomiting and full blood work showing no deficiencies in iron levels. I am not being sarcastic. If you are going to do one then everyone has to play. If not they need to change the policy.

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Mjh6

2:16 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

A better plan would be to increase health insurance rates and give those of us that DO strive to take care of our "metrics" a nice rebate. So, rather than punishing the "unhealthy" metrics, the system would be positive and reward those that are healthy and adoptive of healthy life styles. And yes, CVS should be ashamed-junk food and cigarettes are great for sales but..how hypocritical. Hello Walgreens!

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Emcee of Seekonk

2:34 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

There ya go. I like the positive approach, particularly the rebate part... if it could be managed fairly.

Emcee of Seekonk

2:27 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

For many years, some insurance groups like Blue Cross, Harvard Pilgrim etc. offered (and still offer) the enticement of $150 or so to become a member of a legitimate gym, and even more if you can prove to be in a weight-reduction program. I can understand enticements. I take advantage of one of these enticements. But demanding personal information like weight, BMI, glucose levels is a step too far.

I agree with Todd, that if we are going to target one group why not all groups. There are many illnesses that contribute to the high cost of medicine such as heart disease, cancer of all types, diabetes, etc., and there is a lot of reckless behavior.

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deb of see-attleboro

2:40 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

CVS isn't the only game in town. Maybe it is time to take my business elsewhere.

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paul

3:10 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

No doubt Deb, and they are mega expensive! They don't care about their employees health, they only care about their bottom line. CVS is penny pinching at the same time they are getting all kinds of tax breaks, 15 million from jobs delevopment act, 5 million from the EDC and on and on. Anyone on Patch get a tax break?

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deb of see-attleboro

3:48 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

No tax break here! But I got a real mega headache!!

Carol Bragg

3:36 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

Watch Forks Over Knives: http://www.hulu.com/watch/279734?src=sem-plus-google&cmp=507&gclid=CPq7wJ230rQCFYqZ4Aod-RsALw Health costs could be reduced an estimated 50-80% if Americans went to a plant-based diet. Offer a 25% or more reduction in health insurance premiums for those who change to a plant-based diet.

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Christine

3:46 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

And who is going to check up on that?
Oh, yes, big brother!

I refuse to go to CVS!

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deb of see-attleboro

3:50 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

No thanks, Carol I'll hold out as long as I can. And that won't be for long. We are quickly moving towards fascism. See ya when we get there!

Carol Bragg

3:56 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

Presumably physicians would need to be involved. Just trying to suggest that it's in everyone's interest to have a healthier country and lower healthcare costs. Incentives are better than punishment. Watch the movie. A whole fire department switched their diet. It works better as a team than trying to go it alone.

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Dave Abbott

4:06 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

As long as the Whopper Jr. is not a plant then that simply will not work for me.

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paul

4:09 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

I like a plant based salad with a big fat juicy steak. In fact I'm going to have one this weekend before they are outlawed.

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deb of see-attleboro

4:23 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

Physicians who take directives from the World Health Organization.

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Tina Kasimer

8:58 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013

I can think of a lot of high risk behaviors which contribute to healthcare costs. Should we screen out people who partake in those as well? This wouldn't be an issue if we were still "allowed" to get hospitalization insurance only, then people would have a closer financial relationship with their healthcare and it would be in our individual interest to monitor our own health related behavior. Collectivism is bad for health care and takes away our liberty. CVS is pushed into this bad place because of gov't overreach.

Christine

4:10 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

Maybe they should get rid of the drive-thru and make people get out and walk :) Unless they have an H placard---in that case, CVS probably would alos want a doctor's note!

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deb of see-attleboro

4:24 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

That would only benefit CVS. It is along walk through the aisles of temptation to get to the pharmacy.

Carol Bragg

4:46 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

Dave: Do watch the movie. I thought it was crazy when my brother, a tree surgeon, and his wife switched their diet 3 years ago. I thought they were nuts. Then I watched the movie and saw people who had reversed diabetes, cancer, and heart disease. A friend from Texas visited a few weeks ago and I mentioned this diet. She told me her husband had a triple by-pass last year, not because of a heart attack but because of clogged arteries. His doctor ordered him to switch to a plant-based diet. They both love it, lost weight and feel healthier. Nobody's mandating it, but it is a choice and saves money at the supermarket, the pharmacy and the doctor's office. My dog is enjoying the chicken I had in the freezer and also likes the leftover potato and yellow split pea curry. But she leaves the green peas in the bottom of her bowl, even if I mash them -- just like a kid. You razz me so much, and here I am suggesting a way to a healthier life so you can keep on razzing me.

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Emcee of Seekonk

5:37 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

"You razz me so much, and here I am suggesting a way to a healthier life so you can keep on razzing me."

LOL. You're just so razzable.

Make it a plant-based diet with exceptions. Don't forget that sugar is a plant.

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Todd Ouellet

2:32 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Carol, I do give you a hard time becuase I think your views are well "preogressive". Hippies were progressive and we got little more thaqn woodstock IMO. But I will try target. I tried the big box stores once and found they were only cheaper if you used generic brands. Which are not always the same and I wont take them. Plus they screwed up the scrip several times before I returned to CVS. But I will give target a try. See. I will take your advice If It makes sense to me. Just a last note. I have had several vegetarian friends over the years. An when they became pregnant they developed vitamin B deficits. Guess what both doctors told them to do? "Eat some red meat!". Interesting.

Todd Ouellet

5:03 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

Carol, I try not to focus on you but your blogs are absurd! When the talk was topic was about peaceful societies you directed us to cultures that wear grass skirts. I do believe your intent is good but we all know about the road paved with good intent. I agree about boycotting CVS. And I do have Asthma meds (never smoked) I need that I get from CVS. But as for a pharmacy they are always accurate on scripts. Somebody direct me to another pharmacy they trust. I will be happy to give them a try! Another Idea would be for Insurance companies to offer rebates for each year they don't get wacked with major bills from someone. But what about accidents . One day in the ER is about $10k. that is a hard balancing act.

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paul

7:03 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

Todd, one day in the ER for an illegal alien is still $10K and we have to pay for it.

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Carol Bragg

10:20 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

Check your prescription coverage and see whether they list preferred pharmacies. I was using CVS only to find that what was a $21 co-pay at CVS was a $10 co-pay at Target.

Health care costs will rise even faster as the population ages. The only way to reduce them is to improve the overall health of the population.

Todd, the medical research on cancer indicates that people who eat meat and dairy have much higher incidence of prostate and breast cancer than vegetarians who eat only dairy. Those who eat no meat or dairy have the lowest rates. It doesn't have to be 100% but a goal to move toward. I know many women who have had breast cancer who've changed their diets and only wish they'd done that long before they developed cancer. Others have died from breast cancer. It's no laughing matter. We may not like the results of medical research and may not be ready to make changes, but it's not absurd to raise these issues.

JMW

7:09 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

The private sector can require just about anything, it's your choice to take the position or not. Just because they sell candy (and tobacco) doesn't mean that employees should consume them. I think we're talking about obesity here, which is the number one cause of diabetes in this country. I agree, something must be done, I just don't think its this simple. People eat for many reasons, obesity is not always just about overeating, there many underlying causes, i.e., depression/anxiety, hypothyroidism, lack of access to healthier foods, etc. You can't simply fine someone without providing the option of assistance and intervention to resolve the underlying cause.

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Michael Kreyssig

8:44 pm on Wednesday, March 20, 2013

I have worked for companies that do this? I seriously doubt that the employees are forking this info over to their supervisors. More than likely they are getting screened by employees from the insurance company that come into the workplace and do it. It's takes all of 5 minutes. Consider that fact that many people do not bother going to the doctors at all until they begin experiences symptoms of some disease. That can be costly to everyone. If someone learns they have a bad BMI or poor glucose levels early, steps can be taken to address the problem early, before it becomes costly to the insurance company, or dangerous to the employee.

What do you think the federal government is going to do once we get a national health care system? HELLO!!!!

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paul

7:50 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013

Yeah, just like the government makes people pay taxes, well most people. Just like the government makes people work for welfare and EBT cards, sorry my bad, they give them out for free. So you're saying the government is going to make people get a fat check up? Stop being so paranoid!

deb of see-attleboro

9:21 am on Thursday, March 21, 2013

Tina: Yes, there are riskier behaviors. Having sex, for instance. Not only are participants at risk for STD's, they may produce a child. A child is a costly burden on the system. Maybe there should be a surcharge on unprotected women of childbearing age.
Children having children is a burden on the system. Maybe we need a fine on parents whose children produce children. Better yet, how about mandatory birth control for unmarried women during their reproductive years.

BTW, where are all the pro-choice people on this?
Besides paul, I haven't heard a peep.

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Gretchen Robinson

2:39 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

this thread keeps getting off track as everyone adds their pet peeves.
It's the 'kitchen sink' approach. Throw every thing in at once and never question
the legality of these requirements. Insurance companies run this country's healthcare, they and the pharmaceutical companies.

If CVS can do it, what's to stop other employers? Next, you'll have to self-report if you have a diabetes or heart disease history. I can see asking potential employees if they smoke (how awful is it to walk by sales clerks smoking and get enveloped in that stench). But this is the tendency. Right to privacy groups are sounding the alarm lest you have to submit your DNA profile in the future.

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JMW

7:21 pm on Thursday, March 21, 2013

You raise a good question, "what's to stop other employers". The answer is very little! In general, this means that unless you have a contract, you are what is called an, "at will employee". This is a doctrine which holds either party without responsibility to the other, unless, it violates the public policy doctrine or a state or federal statute. There is an exception to this doctrine in 11 states (MA included) called covenant of good faith and fair dealings. This means that the employers personnel decisions are subject to the just-cause standard. In other words, you can't be fired if it is motivated by malice or if the termination was made in bad faith. So in essence, there is very little stopping employers from hiring/firing whom ever they want, for what ever reason they choose. Believe me, if they want you gone, they will find a legitimate cause. If you don't like their policy you are free to find other employment.

Wzzzrd

2:53 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

In addition to this CVS just slashed their employee health care benefits. Employees must meet a $10,000 deductable for hosiptal care. All Dr. wellness and cronic medical condition visits have been cut from insurance and must be paid out of pocket. The only reason any employer requests such personal information is so that they can see a reduction in rates from the insurance company who is asking for this information. It all comes down to corporate greed, both for CVS and their insurance providers.

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Todd Ouellet

4:49 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

The "'corporate greed" stuff does not fly. Thsi country was built on capitalism. CVZ has the right to make as much money as it can. I agree they are horrible employers from what I can see. But as one post said they are employees at will. Nobody forcing them to stay at the job. i am so tired of hearing how the rich corporations are evil. Think about this:Does anybody every talk about how much movie stars make. No. If Brad Pit gets paid $100 million for a ten minute appearance in a movie and the movie sucks does that make him evil. Personaaly I just wont go to see the movie. So just don't shop at CVS if you feel that much sense of morality. As for the evil Rich. I myself strive to be one of them someday.

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JMW

5:25 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Exactly my point. If you don't like what's being served then find somewhere else that you do. CVS I'm sure is spinning this to appear as though they are concerned about the health and welfare of their employees.....they are NOT! The reason they are doing this is good old fashioned greed. The goal is simple minimize cost to maximize profits to keep the shareholders happy, without digging into their reservoirs. This will accomplish just that plus the added bonus of looking like they are socially conscious.

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Todd Ouellet

11:35 pm on Friday, March 22, 2013

Interesting JWM, It appears we crashed the conversation for now. Damn us greedy capitalist!

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Lori Grayson

3:50 pm on Sunday, March 24, 2013

Happy early birthday you greedy capitalist :D

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